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лица знающие Президента говорят другое
Date: 2012-10-19 05:29 pm (UTC)Это помимо
ОЧЕВИДНЫХ ФАКТОВ ПОЛИТИЧЕСКОГО ПРОЦЕССА В УКРАИНЕ(понимаю что это многим просто недоступно)
Легендарний антикомуніст, справжній боєць з більшовизмом Володимир Буковський у 2008 зробив гаслом своєї виборчої кампанії у Росії слова:
ЗЕК ПРОТИ МЄНТА.
Буковський проти Путіна.
Наш Президент більше 40 років тому ДІЯВ ТАК САМО І ВИГРАВ. Героям Слава.
ВІКІЛІКС депеша нумер: 06KIEV1996
http://wikileaks.org/cable/2006/05/06KIEV1996 (http://wikileaks.org/cable/2006/05/06KIEV1996)
Yanukovych had been very poor as a child, living in a village with his grandmother until she died and then in an orphanage until he turned 17;
he had left the orphanage "with a lot of money" as he had learned to "play cards well."
Yanukovych had returned to his grandmother's small house, which he inherited, to renovate it and work the land, but had immediately butted heads with an alcoholic neighbor, a police officer, who had illegally taken over part of the Yanukovych family spread.
Yanukovych told the cop to get off his land;
in retaliation, the cop fabricated a criminal case against him, and Yanukovych went to jail.
After his release, Yanukovych again asserted his right to his grandmother's property, which prompted the cop to fabricate another criminal case. Yanukovych said he was given no time to prepare for his second trial and was actually informed of his trial date as he was preparing to propose to his wife.
The trial last a cursory 45 minutes, after which he was again sentenced to jail.
¶4. (C) Outraged about being railroaded a second time, Yanukovych said that he became a difficult charge for his
jailers, refusing to eat prison food and subsisting only on food packages sent to him by others.
Yanukovych was punished for his intransigence by being put in isolation 14 times, for stints of 7 to 40 days.
After being released from prison, Yanukovych said it took him four years to get the local courts to overturn his convictions and officially clear his name -- something, he stressed, that rarely happened in Soviet times.
Yanukovych credited Donetsk-born Soviet Cosmonaut Georgi Beregovoy, a longtime Donbas representative in the Supreme Soviet, for taking an interest in his case and getting him exonerated.
Re: лица знающие Президента говорят другое
Date: 2012-10-19 09:32 pm (UTC)"Yanukovych described what he called his "problems with the law." Yanukovych had been very poor as a child, living
in a village with his grandmother *** " - т.е. это он лично кому-то объясняет про тяжелое детство и сопротивление режиму.
Ставить на одну доску Буковского и Януковича не то что бы кощунственно, а как-то вообще... несоразмерно масштабу. Буковский хотя и бывший зэк, но ни разу не урка.
Re: лица знающие Президента говорят другое
Date: 2012-10-19 10:11 pm (UTC)Я ж, разве, спорю, просто, мы пользуеся разным определением, что такое человек.
Можно, вместо, Януковича подставить фамилию Сталина, например. Выражение не потеряет своей истинности. :-)
все про всех хорошо известно
Date: 2012-10-20 01:20 am (UTC)И Сталина знали. НО он тут офтопик
Re: лица знающие Президента говорят другое
Date: 2012-10-20 08:37 am (UTC)Он уже сравнивает Януковича (2 ходки за чистую уголовку) с Буковским (известнейшим правозащитником и антикоммунистом)...
Интересно, что общего у них? Янукович сдергивал шапки с прохожих-коммунистов?
ПС. Бывший министр внутренних дел А. Могилев сравнивал Януковича с Черноволом! во как!
Re: лица знающие Президента говорят другое
Date: 2012-10-20 01:41 pm (UTC)Re: лица знающие Президента говорят другое
Date: 2012-10-21 10:26 am (UTC)"сдергивал шапки" - вы лично видели?
Date: 2012-10-20 03:54 pm (UTC)а на самом деле:
an alcoholic neighbor, a police officer, who had illegally taken over part of the Yanukovych family spread.
Yanukovych told the cop to get off his land;
in retaliation, the cop fabricated a criminal case against him, and Yanukovych went to jail.
After his release, Yanukovych again asserted his right to his grandmother's property, which prompted the cop to fabricate another criminal case. Yanukovych said he was given no time to prepare for his second trial and was actually informed of his trial date as he was preparing to propose to his wife.
The trial last a cursory 45 minutes, after which he was again sentenced to jail.
Re: "сдергивал шапки" - вы лично видели?
Date: 2012-10-21 06:43 am (UTC)но, посколько я обращался к вам по-русски, не будете ли вы столь любезны отвечать тоже по-русски, тем более, вы им сносно владеете?
предупрежу ваш вопрос, отвечу. Учил в школе франц. язык с 1-го класса.
Re: "сдергивал шапки" - вы лично видели?
Date: 2012-10-21 06:44 am (UTC)Вы лично видели Эверест, о. Науру? А может, их и не существует?
Re:а на самом деле:
Date: 2012-10-21 10:47 am (UTC)